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Developers. :(

Post by tlmiller » Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:50 pm

So we have the devs at work that are basically being told they have to run linux since all our software is developed in linux primarily, and all our hosted client environments are linux only (or will be, they might still have Windows as their DB server for now, and a couple REALLY old environments also have Windows as the main application servers).

So they're all just blindly installing things, and most of them aren't even sure WHAT they're installing. Every single one just about has come to me with the same story "I was installing everything we were told to install, and suddenly I can't log in". Did some digging, and SOMETHING they're installing is changing ownership of multiple files/directories in their home directory to root, so they don't have access to login to the gui (it's not breaking cli logins). Of course, none of them actually KNOW what they installed, as they're literally just following steps.

I also had one developer that decided his laptops display wasn't working as well as it should, so he installed the nvidia proprietary drivers. He has a laptop with Intel IGP only. And during the installation of the Nvidia binaries, it uninstalled xserver-xorg-video-* so it had NO video drivers remaining. WHY???!!!

Just thought some might get some chuckles at some of the stories from my work recently.

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Post by crosscourt » Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:41 pm

Ive seen this with Federal agencies when they made the switch to Linux and crazy stuff started happening. The IT and contracted devs screwed up royally and honestly had no idea what they were doing. My old tech shop had a contract with those agencies and not only had to fix things but held learning sessions to teach people what to do and what not to do.
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Post by tlmiller » Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:49 pm

At least there's a couple that have SOME clue what they're doing, so they're able to help the others understand a LITTLE. I'm glad that everyone is getting used to linux now, but I disagree with forcing them into linux with no knowledge whatsoever. It would be like replacing my desktop with MacOS and asking me to do my job. I would be completely lost (I literally was trying to help someone connect to our SFA's a couple weeks ago on a Mac and I utterly failed at figuring out how to do so), and hopelessly confused as to how to accomplish anything.

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Post by crosscourt » Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:52 pm

Agree, as i dont understand why they dont have learning sessions to help people adapt. Im assuming youre probably the teacher in this situation.
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Post by tlmiller » Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:53 pm

For those that care to learn, yeah. A lot are "just fix it, I don't care to know how to do it, I just need to get to the point where I can write the code I need to write".

Although some of it I've been learning too. Such as I learned that a .jnlp file is essentially a standalone browser java plugin file. A dev had to launch a .jnlp for some software he uses, and in looking it up (I've used jnlp's on windows, but never actually knew what they were other than another form of java application), I discovered it requires icedtea, which of course is the browser-based java plugin. So I'm learning things as well!!

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